Now They’ve Come For “Baby It’s Cold Outside”! – Random Reacts

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Random reacts to the news that people are trying to ban the Christmas song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” for being not PC. #BabyItsColdOutside #ChristmasMusic #React

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  1. Paul Valles says:

    Go for it, I hate the pc brigade, if don't like something you can always turn it off

  2. ShadowWing Tronix says:

    This isn't anything new. I've written on the full history of the song and what it's actually about, plus the rage against it. But "they" don't want to learn anything. It's all surface rage.

  3. Carlos Alvarez says:

    Yes! This is getting way way out of hand! It's all out madness!

  4. Cynthia Martinez says:

    This is so stupid attack all songs for that matter.Anyone can take a
    Song and make it wrong.Its how
    You interrupet the song ?
    Gosh when does this stupidity
    Stop.Lets just become a country
    Where we have know freedom
    to express ourselves artistically. You can take a song a poem a movie rip it apart and say this is inappropriate material!!!!!!
    This so called Me to is not sound
    mentally it smells suspicious
    and just pointing aimlessly
    at anything they deem inappropriate! Crazy!!!!!!!

  5. wItch Bish says:

    Its fucking ridiculous the radio station plays songs like rappers fucking woman and Ariana Grande singing about getting all day and all night in Side to Side but no one was butt hurt. There's loads of popular singers who sing songs about being fucked or looking to fuck. Wow these people are idiots..

  6. Neville6000 says:

    Okay, here's a great rebuttal from 2010 defending this song ( written BY a femenist ) ;

    I’m a pretty voracious consumer and critic of American popular culture. I’m one of those 3rd wavers who believes that the deconstruction of all aspects of pop culture is an important aspect of feminism or any sort of progressive movement. Mass culture is the stew we all live in; when we learn to look at it critically, we can discuss the messages we’re soaking in every day. Sometimes we’re good at it, sometimes we’re bad at it, sometimes we get bogged down in the wrong details. But asking questions is important.

    I’ve noticed over the last several years that some feminists have a strong dislike for the Frank Loesser song “Baby, It’s Cold Outside.” Hattie wrote about one interpretation of the song last week, but with all due respect to my fellow Persephonine, I must heartily disagree with her view of it.

    I’ve heard the take on “Baby” as “rapey” a couple of times over the years and the concern about the song usually centers in on one line: “Say, what’s in this drink,” which many contemporary listeners assume is a reference to a date rape drug. But narrowing in on this particular line divorces it from its own internal context, and having only passing familiarity with the song divorces it from its cultural context. You can (and should) read the lyrics of the song in their entirety here.

    The structure of “Baby” is a back and forth conversation between the male and female singers. Every line the woman utters is answered by him, until they come together at the end of the song. When we just look at “Say, what’s in this drink,” we ignore the lines that proceed and follow this, which are what indicates to the listener how we’re supposed to read the context.

    The song sets up a story where the woman has dropped by her beau’s house on a cold winter night. They talk in the first verse about how long she’s going to stay. She has “another drink” and stays longer, and then later in the evening it’s implied that she’s going to sleep over.

    If we look at the text of the song, the woman gives plenty of indication that she wants to stay the night. At the time period the song was written (1936), “good girls,” especially young, unmarried girls, did not spend the night at a man’s house unsupervised. The tension in the song comes from her own desire to stay and society’s expectations that she’ll go. We see this in the organization of the song — from stopping by for a visit, to deciding to push the line by staying longer, to wanting to spend the entire night, which is really pushing the bounds of acceptability. Her beau in his repeated refrain “Baby, it’s cold outside” is offering her the excuses she needs to stay without guilt.

    Let’s look at the lines. As she’s talking about leaving, she never says she doesn’t want to stay. Her words are all based around other people’s expectations of her — her mother will worry, her father will be pacing the floor, the neighbors will talk, her sister will be suspicious of her excuses and her brother will be furious, and my favorite line that I think is incredibly revealing, — “My maiden aunt’s mind is vicious.” Vicious about what? Sex. Unmarried, non-good girl having, sex.

    Later in the song, she asks him for a comb (to fix her hair) and mentions that there’s going to be talk tomorrow – this is a song about sex, wanting it, having it, maybe having a long night of it by the fire, but it’s not a song about rape. It’s a song about the desires even good girls have.

    So what is he singing while she’s talking about what other people think of her? He’s providing her with a list of cover stories, essential, excuses she can use to explain why she hasn’t or won’t go home. It’s cold out, it’s snowing, the cabs aren’t running, the storm is becoming a blizzard, she might get hurt trying to get home. He’s complimenting her as well, something that many criticisms of the song hone on — she has beautiful eyes, her lips look delicious, her hair looks swell. But this is standard romantic language. They are having an intimate time together and he’s far less constrained by societal expectations, so he can ask her to stay. It’s always assumed that she’ll turn him down. Except that she doesn’t want to. It’s her mother, her father, her aunt, the neighbors that want her to go home in a storm; she’s having a lovely time. (“I ought to say no, no, no sir, well, at least I’m gonna say that I tried.”)

    So let’s talk about that drink. I’ve discussed solely looking at the lyrics of the song and its internal universe so far, but I think that the line “Say, what’s in this drink” needs to be explained in a broader context to refute the idea that he spiked her drink. “Say, what’s in this drink” is a well-used phrase that was common in movies of the time period and isn’t really used in the same manner any longer. The phrase generally referred to someone saying or doing something they thought they wouldn’t in normal circumstances; it’s a nod to the idea that alcohol is “making” them do something unusual. But the joke is almost always that there is nothing in the drink. The drink is the excuse. The drink is the shield someone gets to hold up in front of them to protect from criticism. And it’s not just used in these sort of romantic situations. I’ve heard it in many investigation type scenes where the stoolpigeon character is giving up bits of information they’re supposed to be protecting, in screwball comedies where someone is making a fool of themselves, and, yes, in romantic movies where someone is experiencing feelings they are not supposed to have.

    The song, which is a back and forth, closes with the two voices in harmony. This is important — they’ve come together. They’re happy. They’re in agreement. The music has a wonderfully dramatic upswell and ends on a high note both literally and figuratively. The song ends with the woman doing what she wants to do, not what she’s expected to do, and there’s something very encouraging about that message.

  7. Ninjabear Press says:

    Not really a Christmas song but to be honest, the line, "Hey what's in this drink?" has always worried me — okay I just listened to the song (got to love YouTube vids with lyrics) and at the end they agree it's cold outside.

  8. Doe Killer says:

    You have to look up the Muppet version.

  9. BabyKrogan says:

    I don't think the song is rapey at all. A rapist wouldn't try to persuade his victim to stay, he'd force her to stay and he'd rape her. Forcing and convincing are opposite things. Our society considers it inappropriate for men to be persistent these days but back then context was a thing. You can tell if a woman doesn't want the attention, if she's being harassed vs if she wants to be convinced to do something and the woman in the song clearly wants to be convinced.

  10. sibeliandrift says:

    OK, how about Eartha Kitt's "Santa Baby"? That portrays women as GOLD-DIGGERS. MISOGYNY! Or something.

  11. S4ns says:

    Oh they come for this song every year and every year nobody but NPCs care.
    And it comes back again and again and again.

  12. celticarchie says:

    Epic Voice Over Voice Santa is introducing a New List this Christmas… along his classic Naughty Or Nice, comes The NPC/SJW Moron LIst!!! :O So kids you better watch out… Have you called someone, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic, racist, just because they said something perfectly innocent or resaonable? Have you actively campaigned to take away someone's livilihood just because to don't like them? Have you been insultive or mean to fans of a Sci-Fi/Fantasy franchise because they are more intelligent than you and can see through your pathetic attemps to make a movie/TV show? Guess what? You're on the New List… 😀

  13. chrisleeharvey says:

    Isn't the lyric that they are pointing to as evidence. The line, " Say, what's in this drink," an insult to whomever mixed the drink as it's very weak?

  14. Tabris69 says:

    I sneezed today, thousands of snowflakes were triggered by the ensuing God bless you…

  15. Ken Hallaron says:

    Have two people of the same gender sing "Baby It's Cold Outside". Confuse the hell out of people. They won't know what to do with it.

  16. Philly man says:

    A scrooge defending a Christmas song? Wow!!! Times have changed.

  17. The Maintainer says:

    this one of the few Christmas songs I love. I think it's very romantic

  18. Sorba Baric says:

    Nothing wrong with that song . I always interpreted it that she wanted to stay, but had other responsibilities, and had to reluctantly leave. And the song contrasted the cold weather and responsibilities to others to the warmth & joys to be found in staying

  19. Joe Fernandez says:

    With the songs they don’t play the funny ones much, and the donkey song. This song you’re talking is not offensive, they need to get a life.

  20. Deitrich Davis says:

    Lol that’s been a rape song. Even my parents called it he rape song sense i was child in the 80s. Just no one complained. It was was train of thought of time. Funny this shit all started from the Joe rogan podcast when they broke it down.

  21. Luc Fauvarque says:

    Let's face it: it's leftist programming. Now, question: how do we fight back? It's on social media, entertainment, and school. Answer: the only way currently available is counter programming.
    The problem within our societies isn't the leftist programming enforced… It is the total lack of serious "rightist" programming, who should be there to negate their strategy in the first place.
    It's like nuclear dissuasion: if the Russians didn't have build their nuclear arsenal in response to the Americans, they would have been forced to abandon and put themselves into submission right away, like the Japanese did. We don't have nuclear weapons. They have. That is the problem.

  22. Pedro Valente says:

    next attack: Bing Crosby

  23. MLPDethDealr32 says:

    Seriously. My parents play this song at Christmas. WTF. >:

  24. Brandon Gregory says:

    They sang this song at my kids Christmas program, for fuck's sake! (Though they did drop the references to smoking and drinking.) I don't want to live in a world where flirting is a sex crime.

  25. Perseus The Cat says:

    OH MY GAWD! I literally just published an essay in Doomcock's Lair on his Patreon about this very topic. In the time it took me to write that, you posted an entire video!

    You rock, MechaRandom42!

  26. NPC 100573200 says:

    I never bought Christmas songs because of how long I worked at Walmart. However I now am buying Christmas music purely because of SJWs hating it. I saw Peppermint 3 tines because of SJws hate it XD why does anyone listen to them?
    They are just marketing devices. Anything they hate, makes more money when it doesn’t tailor to them

  27. NPC 100573200 says:

    I never cared about this song much but if NPCs hate it then it’s time to buy the song
    Anything critics and SJWs hate is much better to me

  28. Robert Yates says:

    Hey SJWs!!… spoiler alert!…you can ban every song ever invented, and rape will still exist, because there are sick, mentally messed up people in this world!….case in point, look in the mirror.

  29. CanDo Entertainment says:

    Favorite version of this song is by Robert Palmer & Carnie Wilson. As William Shatner once said on SNL, "Get a Life". People really sometimes suck. It's a great song.

  30. Dj Odyssey says:

    Accually they have tried for the last couple of years… Its just getting more traction now since some stations are bowing down and taking it out of the playlist.. THIS DJ will NEVER take it out…

  31. Frantic Noobs says:

    Although I never looked at it as being a husband and wife, it's pretty clear from the beginning that the woman wants to stay… and the man knows it. The man wants her to stay, and the woman knows it. There is a social dynamic where you play hard to get so you have a social excuse as to why you did something you wanted to do. As long as you r partner is aware of it (which he is) there is no harm.
    people need to honestly stop being stupid and start thinking about how humans work and why.

  32. Thomas Potts says:

    I don’t like this song. But it doesn’t get me mad.

  33. Gary Nadeau says:

    I hope that snowflake generation will melt soon.

  34. van hill says:

    Welcome to the NPC grinches …that spoil everything

  35. Louis Giorgino says:

    He's being flitashous but not threatening. I don't know what the issue is

  36. Grace B says:

    The last time I heard this song, I remember joking with a coworker that it could be thought of as a rape song but that I thought of it as a call and response flirtation between two adults. Now it seems that people just want to deem it offensive rather then look at the cultural context the song was first written in.

  37. Broke and Caffeinated says:

    I don’t know how to feel about this. So how long before something like toothpaste is offensive or how about banning Back to the Future because of one of it’s plot points

  38. Maria Rosa says:

    Not an Xmas song but they are now calling The Little Mermaids "Kiss the Girl" a rape song. Smh.

  39. Stormer248 says:

    For two years I've been counting the days until they finally go out and boycott the song "white Christmas" for being oppressive. I know all too well that they aren't above it, and this story proves that completely.

  40. Gears 73 says:

    Next they are going to attack Santa Claus and Rudolph.

  41. Gears 73 says:

    That’s why my best songs are not on my YouTube channel because they are highly offensive.

  42. Gears 73 says:

    It’s the PMRC all over again.

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